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ИСТОРИЯ КАЗАХОВ
Должны ли казахи гордиться Аттилой?

Должны ли казахи гордиться Чингиз-Ханом?

КАЗАХСКОЕ ПРАВИТЕЛЬСТВО
Почему Назарбаев предаёт интересы казахов?

Кровавая баня на погранзаставе.

По Жанаозенским событиям нужно судить Назарбаева.

Проблема казахского языка это проблема казахов.

Стоит ли гордиться казахам, если на Олимпиаде за Казахстан побеждают представители других народов?

Русские в Казахстане: добро или зло.

Расколотое общество Казахстана.

Что казахи получили от Октябрьской революции 1917 года.

Украинцы рвутся в ЕС, русские тянут их в ТС, а казахи уже попались.

Казахам нужно как можно быстрее избавляться от русских.

Казахам надо предотвратить добровольное присоединение к России.

Научный подход к пониманию русской души.

Должны ли казахи отмечать 9 Мая как День Победы?

Помни казах, что русский твой враг.

Предатели празднуют День Победы 9 мая.

Почему русские евреи спасают Россию.

Происхождение русского языка.

Каких русских Путин и Кремль собираются защищать за рубежом?

Казахская конница

Происхождение украинцев

Предки казахов создавали новые государства и народы




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Открытое письмо к руководителям США.

   Международная организация по защите прав человека HRF опубликовала открытое письмо к руководителям США и всему гражданскому обществу.*

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Письмо опубликовано в газете Washington Examiner под названием “О злоупотреблениях диктатуры в Казахстане и его правителя Нурсултана Назарбаева”.
Акт Магнитского или подобный закон может привести на скамью подсудимых тех, кто ответственен за кровавую бойню в Жанаозене.
16 декабря 2011 г. в Казахстане произошла ужасная кровавая бойня.
В тот день полицейские открыли огонь на поражение по гражданским лицам в небольшом городе Жанаозен, расположенном на западе страны. По официальным данным 16 человек было убито и 100 человек ранено. Независимые источники утверждают, что убито более 70 человек и ранено от 500 до 800 человек. Это был кровавый конец семи месячного конфликта между нефтяниками, протестовавшими против плохих социальных условий, и диктатором Нурсултаном Назарбаевым, который правит нашей страной железным кулаком с 1991 года. Жанозенская кровавая бойня ознаменовала новую эру в политических репрессиях. Бастующие рабочие были обвинены и приговорены к длительным срокам. Следом потянулись суды над социальными и политическими активистами, кто помогал рабочим. Один из таких лидеров Владимир Козлов был осуждён и приговорён к семи с половиной годам тюремного заключения с конфискацией имущества.
Государственные власти также обрушили удар по независимой прессе. Журналисты, которые освещали события обвиняются в организации государственного переворота.
Между тем служащие правоохранительных органов, кто стрелял в граждан ушли от ответственности. Назарбаев отказывает в разрешении международного расследования, поскольку он знает, что результаты расследования высветят реальное лицо его режима.
Как представители гражданского общества Казахстана мы опасаемся за наших коллег. Наши попытки остановить тиранию Назарбаева остаются тщетными, поскольку все части правовой системы, включающая прокуратуру и суды действуют по его приказу. Его система подавления хорошо документирована организациями по правам человека подобно таким как Freedom House(Свободный Дом), Amnesty International(Международная Амнистия) и Human Rights Watch(На Страже Прав Человека). Базирующая в Нью-Йорке Human Rights Foundation (Фонд по Правам Человека) также недавно объявила о новых инициативах по разоблачению Казахстанского режима и спонсированию публикации этого открытого письма.
Мы обратились к законодателям США чтобы они помогли нам. В прошлом благодаря вмешательству европейских политиков такие гражданские активисты как Булат Атабаев, Жанболат Мамай, Наталья Соколова и Игорь Винявский были освобождены из заключения. Мы уверены что, предложенный закон, известный как Акт Магнитского, в настоящее время находится на рассмотрении в Палате Представителей и поддержана конгресменом Илиана Рос-Летинен(Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen). Возможно это будет отдельный Жанозенский Акт с той же целью. Акт с подобной целью заставит Назарбаева дать пространство для оппозиции, как первый жизненный шаг в направлении демократии. Из-за заключения в тюрьму Козлова, казахское общество потеряло наиболее важный критический голос режима Назарбаева и лидера нерегистрируемой политической партии “Алга!”.
На следующей странице мы публикуем имена официальных лиц Казахстана, полицейских, судей и сотрудников КНБ вовлечённых в Жанозенскую бойню и последующее подавление гражданского общества и средств массовой информации. Мы также просим США рассмотреть принятие закона, запрещающее въезд в страну и замораживание счетов в банках этих лиц и мы предупреждаем об этом гражданские общества, финансовые и общественные организации.
Назарбаев поддерживался в Вашингтоне с помощью пиар-механизмов, использующих BGR Public Relations, Qorvis Communications, Global Options Group, APCO Worldwide, Policy Impact Communications, а также “своих людей” как Алекс Машкевич и болгарский маклер Александр Мирчев. Они обогатили себя в результате служения безжалостному тирану приказавшему расстрелять нефтяников. Они продвигали ложь о том, что Казахстан это “страна молодой демократии со стабильностью в обществе”, маскируя тоталитарное полицейское государство во главе с лидером, который выигрывает выборы с 95% голосов и проводит закон, позволяющий ему быть избранным пожизненно. Назарбаев подобно Путину в России и Лукашенко в Беларуссии является тираном, который заинтересован только в ограблении казны и пожизненном правлении.
Пожалуйста помогите нам.
Болат Атабаев, режиссер казахстанского театра, драматург, кавлер Медали Гёте, активист Халык Майданы, оппозиционного движения, член “Алги”, нерегистрируемой оппозиционной Народной Партии.
Лукпан Ахмедияров, журналист и корреспондент Уральской Недели, победитель награды Питера Маклера.
Бахитжан Торигожина, лидер “Ар Рух Хак” .
Игорь Винявский, главный редактор газеты “Взгляд” .
Ирина Петрушова, основатель и главный редактор газеты “Республика”.
Марат Жанузаков, глава Народной Партии “Алга”, Акмолинского отделения.
Михаил Сизов, вице-президент Координационного Комитета Народной Партии “Алга”.
Сагат Жузип, член Координационного Комитета Народной Партии “Алга”.
Асель Нургазиева, защитник прав человека, от “Занан”.
Зауреш Баталова, Фонд Парламентского Развития в Казахстане.
Бахит Туменова, президент Аман Саулык, врач, организатор общественного медицинского обслуживания, член Национального Социального Совета Министерства Здравоохранения, член Международной Инициативы Безопасности и Прав Пациентов.
Розлана Таукина, председатель организации по правам человека “Журналист в Опасности”.
Касым Аманжол, журналист сайта Janaozen.net.
Айнур Курманов, лидер “Движения Социального Сопротивления”.
Галым Агелеуов, активист по правам человека от “ Liberty ”.

Официальные лица, полицейские, судьи, и сотрудники КНБ ответственные за Жанозенскую кровавую бойню:
Нурсултан Назарбаев, президент РК.
Аслан Мусин, глава президентской администрации.
Тимур Кулебаев, председатель ассоциации Казэнергия.
Карим Масимов, глава президентской администрации.
Калмуханбет Касымов, министр внутренних дел.
Askhat Daulbaev, Attorney General of the Republic of Kazakhstan
Nurtai Abykaev, Chairman of the National Security Committee of the Republic of Kazakhstan
Bektas Beknazarov, Chairman of the Supreme Court of the Republic of Kazakhstan
Orak Sarbopeyev, Mayor of Zhanaozen
Krymbek Kusherbayev, Deputy of the Prime-Minister of the Republic of Kazakshtan
Rashid Kulibayev, Head of the Zhanaozen temporary detention facility
Zhenisbek Temirov, Former Head of the Zhanaozen temporary detention facility
Amanzhol Kabylov, Head of Internal Affairs Department of Mangistau Region
Mukhtar Kozhaev, Former Head of Zhanaozen Internal Affairs Directorate
Nurzhan Zhandarbekov, Investigator
Talgat Tolykpaev, Deputy Chief of Investigation Department of the National Security Committee
Nurlan Baldairov, Chief of Investigation Department of National Security
Nurlan Mazhilov, Deputy Head of the Department of National Security Committee in Almaty
Marat Tulepbergenov, Investigator Osken Zhasuzakov, Investigator
Miras Topalov, Investigator
Nazym Shaiken, Investigator
Aralbay Nagashybayev, Judge of the Inter-district Specialized Criminal Court of Mangistau Region
Rinat Tasmambetov, Judge of the Inter-district Specialized Criminal Court of Mangistau Region
Leskhan Baygulov, Judge of the Interdistrict Specialized Criminal Court of Mangistau Region
Berdybek Myrzabekov, Judge of Court of Aktau City
Gulmarzhan Adilsultani, Judge of the Inter-district Specialized Criminal Court of Mangistau Region
Talgat Musakhanov, Deputy Chief of the Department of Internal Affairs of the Mangistau Region
Maksat Moldabayev, Investigator
Amangeldy Dosakhanov, Head of Internal Affairs Headquarters in Zhanaozen.
Elzhas Onerov, Investigator of the Aktau Investigative Committee.
Ulugbek Myltykov, Head of the Committee of Public Safety in the Internal Affairs Department

Полицейские, которые лжесвидетельствовали по событиям в Жанаозене:
Nurken Zhanalbekov,
Erbolat Eschanov,
Abdumumin Musaev,
Kural Nurbergenov,
Merey Sagyndykov,
Zhaksylyk Berikov,
Marat Batyrkulov,
Nurlan Ryskaliev,
Adaybay Umbetov,
Timur Begimbetov,
Mukhtar Tolebayev.
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